hoffa, if we go off the fiscal cliff, you're prepared to do that. that would hurt a lot of your members. are your members, do you think middle class americans are prepared to go down that road and bare the brunt of a tax increase just because republicans are stubborn? >> no one wants to see that happen, but guess what? this is something that's not going away. they have done this for the last two years. they held hostage every issue from fixing the roads, the reauthorization, unemployment benefits, we can't keep letting them hold us hostage every time we want to do something that's good for the country. it would be very damaging, but i don't think it would last long because the pressure would be so strong they'll have to do the right thing. they are not going to sacrifice their future for the 2% and basically hurt the 98% of the people that would keep the basic changes that they have. >> so you're saying political russian roulette, bring it on. you think the democrats are in a solid position now and that will hold with the american people. that's int